From eldoradocommunity.org
Road Committee
By Nolan Zisman 466-2968 (email: pnzisman@aol.com)
May 2, 2008, 07:45
Problem Reporting: Your Contribution to the Eldorado Community!
If you spot a stop sign that is down please call Gaby at the County Public Works Dept. at 992-3010 and report the intersection where the sign is down or missing. If you see a street name sign that is missing, a pothole or other hazardous road problems, you can now submit a road problem report by clicking on the "Got Road Problems?" hot spot on the ECIA home page. (You can also use this to report a missing or downed stop sign). A member of the Road Committee will follow up with an on-site inspection and get the report to the County.
Eldorado Road Improvements
2008 (to-date) CompletionsGavilan Place-Jan, 2008-- Base Course
Encantado Place- Feb, 2008-- Base Course
Moya Place-Feb, 2008--Base Course
Gualdo Road- Aug, 2008 - Base Course
Future Plans (as provided by the County)
Camerada Road, between Av Amistad and Camerada Loop - Spring 2008- - Chip Seal. Awaiting final oiling.
Encantado Road (on hold, awaiting funding to be made available)
Balsa Road (on hold, awaiting funding to be made available)
Herrada Road, Av. Amistad, Av. Buena Ventura (on hold, awaiting funding to be made available)--Paving and Drainage Repair:
Verano Loop (on hold, awaiting funding to be made available)-- reclaimed chip seal
Av. Vista Grande (on hold, awaiting funding to be made available)--repaving
"AT THE CROSSROADS"
(Monthly Comments from the Road Committee Chairperson)
October, 2008: DIRT ROADS 102- - In the last issue of Vistas we
covered washboard. In this issue, let’s review some factors regarding rutting.
As you may have noted the County has been trying a slightly different approach
to grading our dirt roads. Where practical, the grader is pushing the side of
the road back toward the original bar ditches, where they exist, thereby
opening up water flow access to driveway culverts that haven’t been exposed for
many years. Several additional roads have been earmarked by the County for this
special grading and your Road Committee is in the process of putting together a
list of even more candidates. This grading technique has two advantages. Runoff
will keep the culverts open and water that used to pool on or at the side of
the driving lanes will be diverted off the driving lanes. Where water stays off
the top of the roadway, deep ruts and excessive muddy spots are less likely to
form. Hopefully, unless we get some
heavy deep snows this winter or a deluge like we had in July, the roads should
be more passable where they have been graded in this manner. During our recent
road inspection, however, Road Committee members noted many instances of
driveways that have no culverts. In many of these cases, the driveway sits at a
higher elevation than the roadway. The result of both these conditions is that
water running alongside the roadway, if it can’t go through a driveway culvert,
will run in front of the driveway and form a small gully. After the July rains,
some of these gullies were fairly wide and deep. So, between lack of culverts
and speeding vehicles, the grader will be required to maintain the roads more
frequently and ultimately the roads will get lower and the gap between the
drive and roadway higher. You can help reduce this cycle by keeping your culverts open and free of things that may otherwise
inhibit the flow of water through them.
September, 2008:
Dirt
Roads 101: (This is the first of a series of “At The
Crossroads” articles dealing with the nature of our roads in Eldorado and what
we as residents and users of our roads can do to and for them.)
I get the most complaints/reports, by far, about the
washboard surface on our roads. Recently I was somewhat flabbergasted when I
received a call requesting grading on Gavilan Road—one that received new base
course only last year. I went over and drove the road and my worst fears were
concerned. How did the road get in such shape after such a short time? I did a
little research and found the following information from “Science News”, Aug.
18, 2007, by J. Rehmeyer:
“Driving on a dirt road can
rattle the bones. Every foot or so, a ridge of dirt up to several inches high
lies in wait to jolt passing ears and trucks and their hapless occupant. In
many places, road crews battle this "washboard" effect by frequently
scraping the roads with bulldozers. But as soon as more vehicles pass, the
ridges, phoenix-like, return…. Now, a team of physicists has explained why a
washboard forms…. Any bed of dirt or sand, even a very smooth one, has
minuscule irregularities that slightly jog a rolling wheel. Each time the wheel
hits a bump, the computer simulation showed, it pushes the dirt forward a bit,
enlarging the irregularity. Then, as the wheel passes over the top of the bump,
the force of its descent pushes dirt forward into the next bump. Repeat these
actions a hundred or more times and the familiar pattern of ridges appears. The
research has a dispiriting message for road crews: Scrape often, or give up.
Washboard is inevitable. The researchers found one, and only one, solution: The
critical velocity below which [the surface] would remain flat is about 5 miles
per hour. Slow down—a lot. While I'm not advocating going 5 miles per hour, I believe that if we all stay within the speed limit on dirt roads (generally 25 MPH) we can slow down the effect of washboarding and save a few dollars on car repairs as well. If you see speeders on your dirt roads, please try to capture their license numbers. If we can report these to the Sheriff's office, perhaps they can issue warnings and get the worst offenders to slow down.
August, 2008: Did
you ever wonder why runoff rarely runs through the culverts under the driveways, but rather
flows along the edge of the roadways and in front of the driveways? From having
looked at many miles of our roads over the course of the past three years, it appears that at one time the original bar ditch alongside the road
carried the water through the culverts under the driveways, away from the edge
of the roadway. Over the years, wind erosion, speeding cars creating dust
and removing base course from the roadway, and the grading of the roads for
snow, ruts, and washboard have resulted in the original bar ditches filling up
and becoming overgrown with vegetation, forcing run off to follow the path of
least resistance, i.e., the edge of the roadway. As a result, we have seen
quite a few similar roads in Eldorado where the runoff from the heavy rain from
two weeks ago created deep ruts, especially where the driveway meets the road.
The county has come out to a couple of roads to re-cut the bar ditch so water
flows away from the road surface and through the driveway culverts. A
contingent representing ECIA will be meeting with county officials soon to
discuss this issue and other issues regarding Eldorado roads.
July, 2008: Musings: Work should have started on application of new base course to several
miles of our dirt roads. This work was funded by a $675,000 appropriation from
the NM Legislature……. This
was a summer that saw a rather large amount of vandalism - - smashed mailboxes,
damaged or destroyed road and bike path signs, egged windows; do you know what
your kids did this summer?......The heavy torrential rains during mid-July did
some damage to individual roads, but, on the whole, the roads held up rather
well; very little rutting and erosion damage; this can most likely be
attributed to the post-winter grading during which the operator put a nice
slope along the sides of the roads so water would drain off the roads, rather
than puddle on them.
June, 2008: Unnecessary Expense: It seems like our kids are getting bored a lot earlier
in the season these days than in prior years. Even before school recessed for
the summer we’ve had several instances of vandalism along our roads that are
taking funds away from other, more positive expenditures (such as filling in
cracks in the bike paths or getting additional gravel and grading on our dirt
roads, or more potholes filled). In
particular vandals damaged a considerable number of crossing signs on the bike
path along Av. Eldorado, bent or knocked off several street signs and painted
graffiti in one of the drainage culverts. Do you know where your kids are? If they are caught are you prepared to
reimburse the expenses incurred? Road projects are either recently completed or are expected to
start soon. As of the date of this publication, work should be completed on
(chip seal) paving of Camarada Road between Av. Azul and Camerada Loop. This
problem area was identified by the County Road Advisory Committee as one of the
worst in the County and by a petition from the residents along the road. The
County has put out a request for
bids for laying new base course on several miles of our roads and should have
awarded the contract in June. Work is expected to begin later this summer. The
Road Committee is currently in extensive deliberations on future community policy
towards paving of additional roads in Eldorado. Not only is the question
of “should we” under consideration, the
questions of what criteria to use to identify candidates and how to fund the
expenses are also being considered.
Watch this column or Vistas for more
information.
May, 2008: June 3 is an important day for the Eldorado
community.That’s the day we have an opportunity to express our
feelings as to the best candidate to represent our community on the Santa Fe
County Commission. There appear to be some pressing political issues of great
concern to Eldorado property owners and renters - - our roads being among
them. While we have made some important
strides in getting attention and funding for our county-owned and maintained
roads, we still have no comfort level that there is a solid plan in place for
ensuring safe and reasonably smooth road surfaces on a constant basis. We only
have to see tire ruts heading off a road onto a resident’s property, or a car
stuck in the mud in the middle of a road’s driving lane to know our roads need
some greater attention. We need the strongest candidate possible to represent
our interests on the County Commission. Hopefully you will become well informed
about each candidate’s qualifications and express your feelings in this matter
at the June 3 elections. The County "Rocks": After this winter’s snow, rain, and mud, we had
over 16 miles of dirt roads that were deemed in bad shape. Kudos to the County
in promptly responding to our request to grade these and other roads and fill
holes in several roads where the dirt meets pavement. The grader operators also
did a terrific job in lowering the sides to prevent water runoff onto driving
lanes, and in getting whatever remaining base course there was along the sides
of the roads back onto the driving lanes. New rock was also put onto several of
the worst cul-de-sac roads and onto short sections of through roads where there
was only dirt (and large ruts). As of the writing of this column, the county
has also received a list of intersections with downed street and hopefully will
get to these once our spring winds have died down.
April, 2008:Volume matters…The Road Committee has begun deliberations on dirt
roads where traffic volumes may warrant their being chip sealed to extend the
useful life of the road surface on such roads. This is a process that is just
in its beginning stages…. more on this in the coming months. Thanks go out to the many Eldoradoans who have sent in Road Problem Reports via the ECIA web
site to help us identify problem areas. Since that function was established a
year ago we’ve heard from 72 residents and have seen many of their reported
problems rectified.
March, 2008: Thanks to Rep. Peter Wirth and the 2008 N.M. Legislature, we received another
$99,000 for applying new base course to our dirt roads. This, hopefully, will
cover another couple of miles. While the amount received is significantly less
than requested, we were lucky to have received anything as many capital
requests went unfilled due to the significantly lesser amounts available to
this legislative session. We expect work
to start later this year on the application of new base course funded in
2007 by the Legislature and Governor Richardson’s office. Hopefully, this will
cover about 10 miles of our dirt roads. Your Road Committee has also completed
our latest road inspection. And thanks to those of you who submitted Road
Problem Reports identifying particular problem areas. The results of both were
used to compile a list of roads with the greatest amount of rutting that can
serve as a target list for the grader.
February, 2008: Road Surfaces:
Having formally
received authority from the State Dept. of Transportation, Santa Fe County is
in the process of drawing up a Request for Bids to have a private contractor
lay new base course on approximately 10 miles of our roads. Funding for this
work came from the 2007 Legislature and Governor allocating a total of $675,000
earmarked for resurfacing some of our roads. The ECIA Board plans to go back to the 2008 legislature to request
additional funding for base course. The County is also looking for funding to
pave 6.4 miles of road previously
identified in their long-range planning as being among the most heavily
travelled and worst dirt roads in Eldorado. Herrada Road, Av. Amistad, Av.
Buena Ventura, and Balsa Road are among these.
January, 2008: A partial loaf is better than no loaf…..As we live, and in some cases slog, through the
2007-2008 winter season, many of you have the opportunity to become deeply
re-acquainted with your local mud hole…er, road. While it is easy to condemn
the whole road as being unfit for human traversing, quite often it is just one
small stretch of road that is the source of the expletives. We want to know
about roads that are hazardous when muddy. But to increase the likelihood of
remedial correction, it’s important to identify short segments that are the
biggest culprits. It is more probable that the County will come out with a load
of gravel to cover an individual spot problem area than to try to address an
entire road. So a range of house numbers, or an estimate of length from a
defined starting point in a defined direction will be helpful in getting some
attention. Use the Road Problem Report form on the ECIA web site to report your
“sticky situations”.
Minutes of Past Committee Meetings:
September 8, 2008 Special Meeting: The meeting was called to order
at 5:31 pm by Chairman Nolan Zisman.
Members present were Bob Burdette, Sherman Frankston, Fred Raznick and
Paul Wilken. Excused absent members were
Joan Mitchell and Lea Williams. Also
present were ECIA General Manager Bill Donahue and ECIA Board Liaison Ed
Benrock. The minutes of the August 4 meeting were approved after the sentence
“A scheduled planning meeting between ECIA and County representatives has been
deferred until the new commissioner takes over” was deleted. No one was present to speak at the Public
Forum.
Report from the ECIA
Board liaison:
Ed Benrock reported that
Malcolm McFarlane had resigned from the Board effective today so a replacement
for him is needed. Nolan asked what
strategy the Board is planning to use to procure road funding in 2009 and who
it would like to represent it in dealings with the County. Ed will take this
back to the Board.
Report on County Road
Advisory Committee activities:
Ed distributed a list of
roads on which the bar ditches are being realigned by the County. He reported that this list had been derived
from the volume of call-ins from residents and from observations of the road
grader operator. Discussion of the way
in which this work is being done ensued.
He also reported that the County road department currently is short two
employees.
Paul expressed concern
that the base course project will cost approximately $98,000 per mile, which is
much higher than previous estimates.
This is because the previous estimates did not include labor costs. He also noted that the Committee’s grouping
of cul-de-sacs with associated through roads had resulted in some cul-de-sacs
with relatively good ratings being repaired instead of cul-de-sacs with poorer
ratings. Ed said that it was too late to
change the list of roads. He also
reported that the Department of Transportation would inspect the roads after
the work is done to make sure they are up to standard.
Old Business/Open
Action Items:
“Getting the Word Out”
re additional roads for chip sealing.
Sherman advocated a two-pronged approach—an article in Vistas on
chip sealing and a form on the ECIA website that residents on a specific road
could use to petition the County to chip seal their road. Nolan directed Sherman’s subcommittee to
compose an article on the pros and cons of chip sealing for a future Vistas. He will also provide the subcommittee with
examples of petitions that have been used.
Sherman also reported that he had gotten very little feedback from
service providers concerning the roads that they felt were most in need of
repair.
“Getting the Word Out”
re the new base course project. Ed
reported that the County is anxious for the base course project to be
publicized. It was moved and seconded
that ECIA notify residents affected by the project by mail. Bill will check on the feasibility of doing
this. It was also suggested that Ed
check with the County to see what information they typically provide residents
affected by a project of this type.
Fred asked whether the
County could require homeowners to install culverts in their driveways. Nolan said that they could only be required
when homeowners make property improvements with building permits.
Committee “Round
Robin”:
Fred reported that he
had observed Waste Management trucks damaging the roads by skidding to a stop
and asked what could be done to stop this practice. Nolan suggested that a letter be sent to the
service providers describing the problem and asking them to exercise greater
care. Ed will see if the Board is
willing to send such a letter.
New Business:
Nolan distributed forms
for the next road inspection to each member.
The inspection is to be conducted between Sept. 15th and
Sept. 22nd. As part of the
inspection members are to be on the lookout for portions of roads that may be
candidates for the base course left over from the base course project. The
results of the inspection will also be used to determine the next list of roads
for which funding may be sought.
The next meeting will be October 6, 2008 at 6
p.m. The meeting was adjourned at
6:56 p.m.
Paul Wilkin, Reporter
Minutes of Aug. 4, 2008 Regular Road Committee Meeting
The
meeting was called to order at 6:07 pm. by chairman, Nolan Zisman. Also present were committee members Lea
Williams, Sherman Frankston, Paul Wilken, Fred Raznick, and Joan Mitchell, ECIA
Board Liaison and County Road Advisory Commiteee Liaison Ed Benrock, and ECIA
General Manager Bill Donahue. The
minutes of the June 2, 2008, meeting were approved as submitted. No one was present to speak at the public
forum.
Report of the ECIA
Board Liaison: Ed Benrock reported that the ECIA is
considering establishing a Governmental Affairs Committee whose primary
function will be lobbying on behalf of
the Eldorado community. This committee
will work with the lobbyist for Santa Fe County. Road committee members asked a number of
questions regarding the membership and organization of the new committee, and
how it would affect relationships between the road committee and County
officials.
Report from the
ECIA General Manager: Bill Donahue had nothing new to report.
Report from the
County Road Advisory Committee Liaison: Ed
Benrock reported that Robert Martinez is committed to completing the W.Camerada
Rd. chip-seal project. Regarding
the Base Course Project funded in 2007, the competitive bidding process has
been completed, and a contractor selected.
The contract is under review by the County legal department. The total budget for the project is $765,000.
Ed also reported on the County’s six
sources of funding for roads.
Old Business/Open
Action Items:
It was proposed that the ECIA send a
letter to homeowners affected by the Base Course Program announcing the work to
be done, the likely schedule, and phone numbers of contacts for further
information.
Joan
Mitchell had no new traffic volume estimates.
Sherman
Frankston, as head of the Awareness Advisory Subcommittee, handed out a memorandum
with a number of ideas for community involvement in road issues. After discussion of the various ideas
presented, a motion was passed to gather information from UPS and FedEx
drivers, newspaper delivery and Waste Management drivers, the fire department
and ambulance drivers on the problems they have with Eldorado roads and their
opinions on which are the worst roads.
An additional motion was passed to take the remaining ideas under
advisement until we can consult with new elected representatives and the ECIA
Board.
We
still do not have a strategy to “take the pulse” of the community regarding
chip-seal of relatively high volume roads.
Sherman will prepare a strategy based on the following parameters: Roads to be chip-sealed should have traffic
volume high enough to require a hard-surface.
The majority of the residents must support chip-seal.
Committee
Round-Robin: No
further updates or suggestions.
New
Business: Nolan Zisman handed out a
packet containing:
1. An article for
the September issue of Vistas on
issues related to drainage and maintenance of bar ditches along our roads. There were no comments.
1. A letter from
resident Rick Schuknecht supporting the Road Committee’s efforts towards a
Road Maintenance Plan and expressing concerns about current methods used
to maintain our asphalt roads. Mr
Schuknecht’s concerns will be forwarded to the County.
2.A Draft List
of Eldorado Street and Road Items for Inclusion in the Santa Fe County
Infrastructure and Capital Improvement Plan for Fiscal Years 2010-2014. Under the section on Chip-Seal of
Additonal High Volume Roads, Joan Mitchell suggested that residents on
Juego Rd. be involved in planning because of Juego’s unique situation as a
potential short-cut for traffic avoiding congestion at the school/library/senior
center complex. Sherman Frankston
suggested adding Antigua, Tarro, and Tetilla roads to this list.
3.“Eldorado Questions.” Nolan suggested that committee members
e:mail him with additional questions, and comments on the answers given.
Four
areas have been identified as problems areas due to flooding after recent heavy
rains. Two areas have been taken care
of. Two others on Estambre and Enebro
still require attention. Sherman
reported on flooding on Tetilla and Antigua roads where the homeowners resolved
the problems on their own when the County did not respond. he will prepare a formal report on the situation.
It
would be useful to have a coordinator from the Retired Senior Volunteer Program
do a 15 minute presentation on that program including information on tax
deductions for mileage driven by committee members.
The
next meeting will be on September 8, 2008, at 5:30 pm. The
meeting was adjourned at 7:48 pm.
Submitted by Joan
Mitchell
Minutes of June 2, 2008 Road Committee Meeting
The meeting was called to order at
6:04 pm by chair, Nolan Zisman.<